SOHC P'ge vs Vtec-e 5th gen hatch

[Vash00es]

Proteges will shine in the corners huh

Vette Z06 runs 12.5 Quarter mile Stock, AND pulls a little over 1G on the skidpad which is godly.. whats the protege pull?

Saying the protege will shine in the corners is basically the same thing as saying it will take out the V8's

[lscrx]

This is a Protege forum... let's get back on topic. Nice race, my LX is quicker than Melissa's old Civic EX with the 1.7 SOHC VTEC... with the exception of the new SI my LX is quicker then pretty much any equally modified Civic.

[Vash00es]

Its his thread, if he wants to go off topic, he can

and it appears, he did want too

[Lex]

What did I do, went and started a war. Well, just about any car can be very competitive in a its own class.

I am just very impressed at how much performance per litre you can get out of a small 1.8l engine. In my view this type of efficiency is something that requires careful engineering and is a great achievement.

I am not putting down larger displacement engines - they can be made to perform extremely well - but being able to make a 1.8l compete with a 5.0l is something that attracted me to the import scene.

All things considered, ANY car can be made into a rocket with enough money and desire.

[Vash00es]

Problem is FWD is severely limited to what it can do
the 4WD proteges are weak as hell, and cant put much power through them or your done

And didnt one guy on here go for 500 hp out of his GTR and ended up melting the gaskets or some **** like that and destroyed the whole thing...

The stock 5.0 Blocks good for 650 or so HP before blueprinting it

[91ProtegeLX]

yea...problem with big power-small displacement engines is usually reliability and cost, ive seen tons of street driven v8s with 700+ hp. But never a 4 or 6 cyl with that much power daily driven. Plus lots of those v8s were n/a.....ive never seen a naturally aspirated 4 cyl make that much power, and be daily driven.

[Lex]

of course the 5.0 block can make more power than a 1.8 4 banger - I am not claiming that, it should make more power.

But look at how much you can get out of the 1.8 . That's what Im saying

[Vash00es]

thats cause NA 4 bangers suck

And Supra is a example of a V6 that makes a ton of daily drivable power

[91ProtegeLX]

bah....supras suck.....900+ hp, and for some reason they only run 11s...haha...thats a supra joke.

No n/a supra makin that power though.

[Vash00es]

Ive always had a fascination with diesels, i saw a video of a diesel powered pickup truck that ran in the mid 10's.. just somethin about them makes me want one

[Lex]

I also agree about the diesels ... they are 25% more efficient than their gas counterparts ... it's a shame they aren't more popular in north america

[Vash00es]

I guess its because its so easy to make power with them ( even though that power dosent make them fast ) Like for 150 bucks you get the little programming tool and it will net you 150 torque and 100 hp just from running it through the things ECU... and a bigger throttle body alone gets you like 15 torque... such redicilous torque monsters

[Lex]

the torque is calculated (not measured) from HP and RPM ... so that is why torque is so high, but even so, they can be made to be quite quick.

I drive a 2001 VW TDI regularly, and with a few mods it can be quite quick ... if you dont mind the smole

[Vash00es]

Lol there was a guy on here earlier that had a friend that had one of the new VW bugs with a TDI in it, and it had 400 pounds of torque

and yeah, propane injection

[Lex]

Upgrade path for turbo diesels:

1. Add more fuel until it's running too rich
2. Give it more air with a bigger turbo/intake/more boost

Repeat as required .... hehe great how diesels dont have an "air fuel ratio" to maintain like gas engines do