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    #31
    I take grammar, spelling, and general command of the English language into account when buying stuff. I'd rather you be coherent and be able to post something intelligent so I have the confidence that you can figure out a transaction rather than worry about your ability to pad a post count...
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      #32
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      1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi




      I pet my dash when I get into the car..."good car"
      he actually has a mazda tree, parts grow on it

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        #33
        seems like some thing you see on a infomercials . as seen on tv ??

        hey hey relax guys! lol everyone knows my grammar sucks @ss and i cant spell for crackers lol. but that still dose not mean you are completely stupid. maybe just a little!
        Last edited by 13thghost; 11-15-2008, 09:01 PM.
        GOD INVENTED TURBO LAG TO GIVE THE V8 A CHANCE!!!!!
        AND
        THE DEVIL INVENTED THE ''ANTILAG'' TO SHOW THEM NO MERSEY!!!!

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          #34
          Originally posted by MD323 View Post
          considering the amount of threads and ancient bumps I think hes trying to bring up the ol' post count


          No,

          Mr Russell purchased a protege for his wife and is a little out of practice maybe some of you forgot...

          I used to have a 12 second Escort on Megasquirt n spark w/ a Ford Edis Conversion

          Seen here





          I think you all get a little too cocky.... Just becuase a members post count on this forum is low Does not mean we are idiot's.
          eat me

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            #35
            ^werd^
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            1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi




            I pet my dash when I get into the car..."good car"
            he actually has a mazda tree, parts grow on it

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              #36
              Crank scrapers are not some fake product created to take anyones money, theses things have been around for a long time and they do work. The benefits to hp benefit is small, but if you ever take your car too the track then why not. OEMs have used them, and they provide some of the same benefits a dry sump can provide without adding the dry sump, especially if you have a windage tray along with it.
              92 Mazda MX3 GS> For sale, $1750 OBO
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              "Hold yourself accountable before you are held accountable"
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                #37
                I know they work and IMO is a great upgrade
                Ive been looking for a BP one for some time.

                What im worried about is how do you know that the Main bearing caps are torqued properly.
                eat me

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                  #38
                  I just re-read the post and saw where you stated the crank scraper is only $50 or $99 for teflon. That's a lot less than the $160-$200 listed on this guys site..


                  Looks like he makes a good product what he needs though is a hand cleaning up that site

                  @ 50 a pop i might just buy one for both of my BP cars
                  Last edited by jacobrussell; 11-16-2008, 12:01 PM.
                  eat me

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                    #39
                    I use a torque wrench when torquing my main bearing caps.

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                      #40
                      Meh, it's about the product and not the site.

                      JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
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                      1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                      1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                      Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                      "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Shades View Post
                        I use a torque wrench when torquing my main bearing caps.

                        Really I usually just turn them until I cant any more.

                        What i ment, and you should know, if you knew anything about building a engine. The Main Bearing Cap bolt torqure specs were figured out with out using a crank scraper. If it is to thin it will squish. I do not know if it is tin, aluminuim, stainless etc this also is differant metal with a differant density than cast steel and may need a bit more torque.

                        Idk about you, but as a mechanic, a REAL mechanic. I have seen people try and rebuild their lower ends, who have had main bolts or con rod nuts come flying off and right through thier oil pan.

                        You dont need to be a smart ass if you dont understand some ones response or post ask what they mean or move on.
                        Last edited by jacobrussell; 11-16-2008, 06:45 PM.
                        eat me

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                          #42
                          Oh wow, who let your humour seep outta your pants.

                          JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
                          Member of MX-3.com
                          1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                          1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                          Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                          "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by jacobrussell View Post
                            Really I usually just turn them until I cant any more.

                            What i ment, and you should know, if you knew anything about building a engine. The Main Bearing Cap bolt torqure specs were figured out with out using a crank scraper. If it is to thin it will squish. I do not know if it is tin, aluminuim, stainless etc this also is differant metal with a differant density than cast steel and may need a bit more torque.

                            Idk about you, but as a mechanic, a REAL mechanic. I have seen people try and rebuild their lower ends, who have had main bolts or con rod nuts come flying off and right through thier oil pan.

                            You dont need to be a smart ass if you dont understand some ones response or post ask what they mean or move on.
                            Oh good a REAL mechanic... finally! People please pay attention to this REAL mechanic.

                            Sorry I'd love to be a mechanic, but working for REAL mechanics I've come to find they know nothing more than a shart.

                            For the record, I'm not a mechanic... nor a REAL mechanic.

                            I just reused my old main cap bolts, and torqued them an extra 25ft/lbs. I can't remember what the final torque was, but you'd just have to sift through my thread to find it.

                            JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
                            Member of MX-3.com
                            1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                            1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                            Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                            "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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                              #44
                              wow this is turning into a flame fest ... crank scrapers are well known mods usually used in larger slower revving motors that need all the help in the world to lighten the reciprocating mass and reduce the " oil cloud" as mentioned before. this isnt something new. the msbc is well worth having to strengthen the bottom end and if someone can combine the 2 effectively i say awesome!
                              usually the maker of the scraper will add info about a critical torque rate if it is necessary.


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                                #45
                                Originally posted by MazdaNoob View Post
                                wow this is turning into a flame fest ... crank scrapers are well known mods usually used in larger slower revving motors that need all the help in the world to lighten the reciprocating mass and reduce the " oil cloud" as mentioned before. this isnt something new. the msbc is well worth having to strengthen the bottom end and if someone can combine the 2 effectively i say awesome!
                                usually the maker of the scraper will add info about a critical torque rate if it is necessary.
                                Yup, this was done on my engine along with polishing the counter weights to create a smooth surface to allow the oil to run off much easier. But I know nothing due to not being a real mechanic.

                                JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
                                Member of MX-3.com
                                1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                                1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                                Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                                "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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