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    #16
    i think the clump of duct tape and silicone amuses me the most

    not that this is a laughing matter, but seriously... wow
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      #17
      I will clean the mess up and remove any extraneous parts/wires and touch up any soldering/wiring that doesn't look right. I will then load code and make sure it runs on my own car before it will go out. Unless something big is fried it's salvageable. I also dislike that the MCU is soldered directly to the board and not in a socket - this makes upgrading to an MS2 a bitch!

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        #18
        jacob doesn't believe in MS2, lol
        Escort GTR -- 11.87 @ 117.6 mph -- 320 HP / 325 Ft. Lbs. @ 23 PSI
        ... The first FWD BG with a Toyota E153 transmission conversion in the USA!
        Looking for BP x Toyota E153 adapter plates? PM me or contact me on Facebook: Riel Performance Parts

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          #19
          yea i bought this from jacob last winter, needless to say, never ever again.
          -Turbo Mx-3

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            #20
            It's in desperate need of flux remover too!
            Ask me about engine management!

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              #21
              How a standalone should be built

              I'm glad I bought mine from LEX!!!

              Fabricated by the master
              Last edited by wheresthericego; 12-30-2008, 03:41 PM.
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                #22
                man thats bad, ive talked to jacob before he seemed like a good guy i guess not though. I know a friend that live close to me, he has been running one of Jacobs ms1 set up for his EGT for about 3 months. The car has had some minor issues but most of it was just the learning curve learning how to tune it correctly, nothing to say the ecu was bad. i told my friend to pop his case open just to peak and see if his looks like that. Lex ive been on the miata sites alot and i know there seems to be a lot of ms info for those guys, and i was thinking of running all miata sensors for the DIS set up so i could run coil over plug and using the miata cam sensors and a crank sensor what do you think? i dont know if it was you or someone else but they said converting to the ford edis wasnt worth the problems.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by wheresthericego View Post
                  I'm glad I bought mine from LEX!!!

                  Fabricated by the master
                  red ground wires?
                  Beater=/= Sleeper

                  Originally posted by kozzman555
                  kitty, you are a hilarious woman
                  Originally posted by HopelessCow
                  there is one thing i dunno what is that call,a thing look like a gun, u press the button and stick to the metal and it makes firework, do i need that thing?and what s the philip head screw drivers?
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                    #24
                    see now thats pretty....
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                    94 protege lx-

                    95 escort gt-ms2e/ms2extra pre3.3alpha5 gslender v2.8-e85-vj23@12lbs----dead--

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by wheresthericego View Post
                      I'm glad I bought mine from LEX!!!

                      Fabricated by the master
                      Definately need more duct tape and silicone!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by wheresthericego View Post
                        I'm glad I bought mine from LEX!!!

                        Fabricated by the master

                        Wheres the jb weld?
                        -Turbo Mx-3

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                          #27
                          oh well atleast your getting it done right this time, how long ya thinking on it lex? oh and whats the average assembly time on those, im thinking about buying one?
                          92 protege lx-

                          94 protege lx-

                          95 escort gt-ms2e/ms2extra pre3.3alpha5 gslender v2.8-e85-vj23@12lbs----dead--

                          are you a thinker, or a believer?

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by yunvmyegt View Post
                            oh well atleast your getting it done right this time, how long ya thinking on it lex? oh and whats the average assembly time on those, im thinking about buying one?
                            To fix that - hope to fix most things in an hour or so. I've just been so busy lately with the holidays ... grrr ... hope for it to be done tomorrow.

                            The assembly time depends on how many times you've done it and how good you are at soldering etc. I'd say that for a first timer it will take a good 4-6 hours to assemble. Then you'd need to flash software, set it up for the engine/configuration, do the wiring/harness work which will take longer than the assembly for most people and fire her up. Of course that is if you're doing everything yourself.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hot_Wheels View Post
                              man thats bad, ive talked to jacob before he seemed like a good guy i guess not though. I know a friend that live close to me, he has been running one of Jacobs ms1 set up for his EGT for about 3 months. The car has had some minor issues but most of it was just the learning curve learning how to tune it correctly, nothing to say the ecu was bad. i told my friend to pop his case open just to peak and see if his looks like that. Lex ive been on the miata sites alot and i know there seems to be a lot of ms info for those guys, and i was thinking of running all miata sensors for the DIS set up so i could run coil over plug and using the miata cam sensors and a crank sensor what do you think? i dont know if it was you or someone else but they said converting to the ford edis wasnt worth the problems.
                              The simplest thing to do is run wasted spark. All you'd need is the miata CAS and I believe you can also use the stock BP DOHC disty. Coil over plug would also only need a CAS to work, but having 4 ignition drivers on the board is the tougher part.

                              The crank sensor is nice only if it increases your ignition resolution. A 60-2 wheel would be ideal but you'd have to mess with fitting it to the crank pulley. The later miatas came with a 4 tooth crank, twice the resolution of a 4 tooth CAS but hardly worth it. Also keep in mind that the extra resolution is only taken into calculation on the MS2, the MSI doesn't make use of it.

                              What I am getting at is that the simplest way to remove the disty is to run wasted spark, Miata style.

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                                #30
                                yea the soldering together wouldnt be the hard part for me i think the flashing it or whatever with the program, and the harness would take the most of my time...
                                92 protege lx-

                                94 protege lx-

                                95 escort gt-ms2e/ms2extra pre3.3alpha5 gslender v2.8-e85-vj23@12lbs----dead--

                                are you a thinker, or a believer?

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