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    #31
    what would you guys recomend for toe settings? 1/16" toe in?
    My family has lots of bg's!
    2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
    1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
    2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
    1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
    1992 Mazda 323: Race car
    1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
    1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
    Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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      #32
      set the toe to stock factory settings....... i don't know what happened to it since i had it. but i don't remember the passenger side looking like that ever.

      i sold it knowing the car needed an alignment- dane just didn't ever get one. preferred to chew up tires i guess. i could imagine fixing the front alignment alone would drastically help out the MPG
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        #33
        That tire looks like you have about 1/2" toe out. I ate a pair just like that in about the same mileage when I stupidly forgot to check toe after replacing ball joints, too much hurry.
        Book says 3/32" toe in, 1/16" will be fine,that's what I used. Anything better than how it is!
        Same in back.
        Camber is supposed to be 3/4 degree neg. Sitting on a flat surface, the top of the wheel will be about 1/4" in from the bottom. Measure with a carpenter's level, but stay front or back of the bulge in the tire from the car weight. either measure the floor or turn the car around and remeasure the camber to be certain the ground isn't slanted. I had a slope equal to the camber, so one side measured straight up and the other was double what it should be = 1/2". Turned the car around and the measurements reversed. But camber isn't what ate the tires.

        FRM
        Last edited by gofanu; 06-22-2011, 12:22 AM. Reason: add

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          #34
          Originally posted by FE3-323 View Post
          set the toe to stock factory settings....... i don't know what happened to it since i had it. but i don't remember the passenger side looking like that ever.

          i sold it knowing the car needed an alignment- dane just didn't ever get one. preferred to chew up tires i guess. i could imagine fixing the front alignment alone would drastically help out the MPG

          ok

          Originally posted by gofanu View Post
          That tire looks like you have about 1/2" toe out. I ate a pair just like that in about the same mileage when I stupidly forgot to check toe after replacing ball joints, too much hurry.
          Book says 3/32" toe in, 1/16" will be fine,that's what I used. Anything better than how it is!
          Same in back.
          Camber is supposed to be 3/4 degree neg. Sitting on a flat surface, the top of the wheel will be about 1/4" in from the bottom. Measure with a carpenter's level, but stay front or back of the bulge in the tire from the car weight. either measure the floor or turn the car around and remeasure the camber to be certain the ground isn't slanted. I had a slope equal to the camber, so one side measured straight up and the other was double what it should be = 1/2". Turned the car around and the measurements reversed. But camber isn't what ate the tires.

          FRM
          Good info to know!
          My family has lots of bg's!
          2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
          1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
          2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
          1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
          1992 Mazda 323: Race car
          1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
          1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
          Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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            #35
            H&R's with the kyb gr2 struts and i have no harshness with the ride at all .. it's a minimal drop 1.5? iirc and we have some nasty ribbed roads around here


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              #36
              Just adjusted my toe again. It was way off (AGAIN!!! Stupid WI potholes, I hate them!!!! ) It was 1 1/2" toe out!!!!!! I think I figured out my tire wear.
              My family has lots of bg's!
              2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
              1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
              2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
              1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
              1992 Mazda 323: Race car
              1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
              1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
              Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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                #37
                Well, I just installed a set of used zx2 tokico front struts to get me through the summer. No more blown struts!!!
                My family has lots of bg's!
                2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
                1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
                2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
                1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
                1992 Mazda 323: Race car
                1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
                1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
                Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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                  #38
                  that set served a long time!!! not bad at all. does it ride better???
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                  1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi




                  I pet my dash when I get into the car..."good car"
                  he actually has a mazda tree, parts grow on it

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by FE3-323 View Post
                    that set served a long time!!! not bad at all. does it ride better???
                    Doesn't ride better, but handles WAY better. Now I can take curves at 90 mph that I could only take at 75 yesterday.

                    It was really bouncing all over the place before. Now it's nice and level.
                    My family has lots of bg's!
                    2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
                    1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
                    2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
                    1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
                    1992 Mazda 323: Race car
                    1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
                    1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
                    Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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                      #40
                      nice! glad to hear it's getting better. My front end likes to bounce around a lot too lol, but that's because of my KYBs and #450 springs...lol...
                      -Jack

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                        #41
                        sounds like the car's gettin' better!

                        I generally try to run zero toe, or with as minimal toe-in as possible. It makes it so you've got to stay on top of things when driving, even on "good" roads. (ruts galore, even if you can't see them!). for autoX, some people run a hair of toe-out, because it really helps turn-in, but it can make DD-ing the car a PITA because it gets really twitchy.

                        --sarge

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                          #42
                          ^ with sarge on that one. Zero Toe would be best for you brody
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                          1992- project FE3..... 313 WHP @ 9.3psi




                          I pet my dash when I get into the car..."good car"
                          he actually has a mazda tree, parts grow on it

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by FE3-323 View Post
                            ^ with sarge on that one. Zero Toe would be best for you brody
                            ok, I'll change that asap.
                            My family has lots of bg's!
                            2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
                            1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
                            2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
                            1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
                            1992 Mazda 323: Race car
                            1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
                            1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
                            Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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                              #44
                              Well, if everything goes as planned, I will be getting a set of 15" BBS RS wheels from a miata for dirt cheap!!!! I sure do hope everything works out! I really want them!
                              My family has lots of bg's!
                              2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
                              1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
                              2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
                              1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
                              1992 Mazda 323: Race car
                              1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
                              1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
                              Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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                                #45
                                hehe, look what I found at the local junkyard! I got it for $25!

                                Yes, this means I plan on building my own supercharger setup!!! I also got a bit of sheet metal, 1/4" thick. I'm going eventually fab up an intake with a intercooler. Sadly, adding an intercooler means I'll need a hood scoop because it will be taller than the hood line, but I guess I can live with it. Intercooler will be pulled next week some time. It will cost me $15. More parts to follow!
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                                My family has lots of bg's!
                                2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
                                1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
                                2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
                                1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
                                1992 Mazda 323: Race car
                                1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
                                1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
                                Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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