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    #46
    sweet. i think it would be awesome to set up flat shifting but at the same time i think it would be tough to relearn to not let off the gas lol
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      #47
      Originally posted by Lex View Post
      Basically any of the options offered as add-ons to the MS system. Some of these are:

      - Removal of VAF
      - Idle air control
      - Boost control
      - Launch control
      - Knock system
      - Wasted spark
      I'd be interested on a total price shipped with these options
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        #48
        Originally posted by MATT91GT View Post
        sweet. i think it would be awesome to set up flat shifting but at the same time i think it would be tough to relearn to not let off the gas lol
        It certainly takes some getting used to.
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          #49
          insaneeee
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            #50
            Originally posted by Turpro View Post
            I'd be interested on a total price shipped with these options
            Let me get back to you on this tonight. When do you need it by?

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              #51
              Originally posted by Lex View Post
              Let me get back to you on this tonight. When do you need it by?
              probably before he changes his mind again.... oh wait to late
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                #52
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                  #53
                  Is anti-lag the same as wasted spark?

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by pikespeakgtx View Post
                    Is anti-lag the same as wasted spark?
                    No, wasted spark is when the spark plugs are fired in both the exhaust and compression strokes. The one on the exhaust stroke is essentially a 'waste' since there is no fuel to go with it. Here is a cool animation I found.

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                      #55
                      Ok I got it. Cool animation there.

                      It's not as if it's a performance enhancer, but it allows you to go with a crank trigger? Is that the point of it?

                      What about 4 coil on plug type coils? Can you go that route with MS2?

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                        #56
                        Absolutely. A lot of the Miata guys are switching over to COPs (usually from the Toyota 1ZZ-FE) with their MSI setups, it should work just as well with MS2.
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                          #57
                          While you can go COP with an MSI, it's a bit of a waste - especially with an MSI that has a low ignition resolution to begin with. Wasted spark is as far as I'd go with most setups - especially if mounting the ignitors in the case.

                          With an MSII you do have a better ignition resolution and it may be worth going COP.

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                            #58
                            Alex- I don't know how much of a benefit it would be to switch over from the BG's stock ignition system, but for the Miata at least switching over to COPs makes a significant difference over the stock coil packs. The coil packs are a known trouble spot (especially when boosted) for us.
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                              #59
                              Originally posted by atomicEGT View Post
                              Alex- I don't know how much of a benefit it would be to switch over from the BG's stock ignition system, but for the Miata at least switching over to COPs makes a significant difference over the stock coil packs. The coil packs are a known trouble spot (especially when boosted) for us.
                              Is it spark blow-out? I hear the coils are not producing enough spark under boosted applications. A quick "fix" would be fitting some DSM coil packs - do you know of anyone trying those?

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                                #60
                                well i only got till next month to think of what ms setup i am running

                                lex dose the ms need to be modified internally for Removal of VAF
                                or Idle air control

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